What are the stars of heaven (Rev 12:4) – angels or people?

The Woman and the Dragon

Great Red DragonRevelation 12 begins with “a woman clothed with the sun” who is expecting a child (Rev 12:1-2). The next verses describe “a great red dragon.” Its “tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth” (Rev 12:3-4).

The Dragon’s Tail

The Dragon’s tail can be interpreted in terms of Isaiah 9:14-15, which says:

“The head is the elder and honorable man,
And the prophet who teaches falsehood is the tail.

Applied to the Dragon, the dragon’s tail deception. Since Satan deceives both in heaven and on earth through his representatives, the question is: Do the stars symbolize deceived people or angels?

Stars could be angels.

Revelation 12 also describes a war in heaven between the dragon’s angels and Michael’s angels, at the end of which the dragon and his angels were thrown down (Rev 12:9). In this context, the great red dragon is identified as Satan (Rev 12:9). Therefore, the “stars” in 12:4 could be Satan’s angels. Has a third of God’s beautiful angels been deceived by Satan?

The Book of Job also describes angels as stars (Job 38:1-7). Job wrote that the morning stars sang together when the LORD laid the foundation of the earth (Job 38:1-7). Since this refers to the creation of our world, these “morning stars” are supernatural beings.

Stars could be people.

However, in some other instances, stars symbolize people. For example:

Daniel wrote that the evil horn would cause “some of the stars to fall to the earth, and it trampled them down” (Dan 8:10). Since the horn is an earthly organization, these stars must be people, specifically God’s people.

In Revelation 1, Jesus has seven stars in His right hand, which are explained as the angels of the seven churches (Rev 1:20, 13, 16). But I assume that these “angels” really are the leaders of those churches and, therefore, they are people.

This woman in Revelation 12 has a crown of 12 “stars” (Rev 12:1). She represents God’s people of all ages. Since the number 12 is derived from the 12 tribes of Israel and Jesus’ 12 disciples, the stars in her crown symbolize some aspect of God’s people. [Show More]

The Immediate Context

I propose that the stars in 12:4 must be interpreted within its immediate context, which describes the war between the woman and the dragon:

Since the woman symbolizes God’s people, specifically, in this context, God’s Old Testament people, the stars that the dragon throws down to earth could be God’s people who have been deceived. 

Although the dragon is identified as Satan in the context of the war in heaven (Rev 12:9), in verse 4, it has “seven heads and ten horns” (Rev 12:3), symbolizing the organizations on earth through which Satan persecutes God’s people (Rev 17:9, 12). This may also imply that the stars in 12:4 are people.

Of heaven

The stars are described as “of heaven” (Rev 12:4). However, that does not mean that the “stars” are literally in heaven because Revelation consistently describes God’s people on earth as if they are in heaven. [Show More]

Since “those who dwell on the earth” (11:10; 13:8; 13:12, 14; etc.) always describe God’s enemies, throwing the stars down from heaven to earth may symbolize that these people have now become God’s enemies.

Conclusion

In the immediate context, the stars symbolize God’s people. That the dragon swept away a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth then means that Satan has deceived a large number of God’s Old Testament people.


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Who are the woman and her child in Revelation 12?

Revelation 12:1-5 describes a woman, a dragon, and the woman’s “male child.” This article identifies the woman and her child.

The Child

For the following reasons, this “male child” is Jesus Christ:

1. He stands out above her other children.

The mother, represented as clothed with the sun and with the moon under her feet (Rev 12:1), has many other children (Rev 12:17), but this “male child” stands out far above them all because the woman was expecting him “in pain to give birth” (Rev 12:2), symbolizing her intensely longing for his arrival.

2. He was caught up to God’s throne.

The dragon, identified as Satan (Rev 12:9), stood ready to devour him as soon as he was born (Rev 12:3-4), but the male child “was caught up to God and to His throne” (Rev 12:5). Who else could this be, other than Jesus Christ? For example, as Mark 16:19 states, “The Lord Jesus … was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.”

3. He is the Seed promised in Eden.

The dragon that attempted to devour the Child is also called “the serpent of old” (Rev 12:9), which refers to the serpent in the garden of Eden (Gen 3:1). This identification with a woman and her child in the context implies that this “male child” is the Seed of the Woman whom God promised would bruise the head of the serpent (Gen 3:15).

4. He will rule the nations with a rod of iron.

This “male child” will “rule all the nations with a rod of iron” (Rev 12:5). That identifies Him as Jesus because Revelation says that the Father gave Jesus the authority to rule the nations with “a rod of iron” (Rev 2:27). Furthermore, when Christ returns (Rev 19:11-21), “the Word of God” (Rev 19:13) – a title which the writer of Revelation also elsewhere uses for Jesus (John 1:1, 14) – will rule the nations with a rod of iron (Rev 19:15).

Conclusion

Revelation 12:5 describes the entire period from Christ’s birth to His ascension. For that reason, the preceding verses must describe the time before Christ, and the subsequent verses describe the time immediately after His ascension.

The Woman

The Alternative Views

The alternative views of the identity of the woman include:

1) Mary: The Catholic Church identifies the woman as Mary, the literal mother of Jesus. [Show More]

2) The formal church;

3) Literal Israel, i.e., the nation of Israel; both before and after Christ; and

4) God’s People, meaning the true believers from all times, nations, and denominations, both before and after Christ.

Indications of her Identity

The following identifies her:

1. She existed both before and after Christ.

Before Christ was born, the dragon stood before the woman (12:4). 

After the Child was born “was caught up to God and to His throne,” the dragon “persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child” (Rev 12:5, 13).

2. Her other children are Christians.

“The rest of her children … hold to the testimony of Jesus” (Rev 12:17). Therefore, after Christ, she represents God’s New Testament people. [Show More]

3. She is not a literal woman.

The entire Revelation is a book of symbols. [Show More]

The immediate context also indicates that she is a symbol. For example:

Both the woman and the dragon are described as signs in heaven (Rev 12:1, 3). The word “sign” (sémainó) means “to give a sign” and implies that the thing seen is not literal.

The woman is clothed with the sun and stands on the moon. [Show More]

She is confronted by a symbolic “great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns” (Rev 12:1-3). [Show More]

4. She is beautiful.

The woman is beautiful in God’s sight. For example, she is “clothed with the sun” (Rev 12:1). Neither literal Israel nor the formal Church was always beautiful. Israel killed the Son of God, and during the Middle Ages, the church killed countless numbers of God’s people.

5. She is the bride, the wife of the Lamb.

The second half of Revelation (Rev 12-22) begins with the war between the Dragon and the Woman (Rev 12). It also ends with the Dragon and the Woman. While the Dragon (Satan) is thrown in “the lake of fire and brimstone” (Rev 20:10), “the bride, the wife of the Lamb” is received in “a new heaven and a new earth” (Rev 19:7; 21:9, 1). By implication, it is the same woman at both the beginning and the end, meaning that the woman in Revelation 12 is Christ’s bride. [Show More]

There is also another woman in Revelation. The woman sitting on a scarlet beast (Rev 17:3) is Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and of the abominations of the earth (Rev 17:5) The symbol of two women is based on the Old Testament, which symbolizes the relationship between God and His people as a marriage; God is the husband, and Israel is His “wife.” (e.g., Isa 54:5-6; Ezek 16:8; Hos 2:14-20) And, when Israelites are unfaithful to Him, Israel is called an adulteress (e.g., Jer 3:8; Hos 2:1-13; Jer 3:6-10; Ezek 16 and 23). [Show More]

Therefore, while the pure woman is a symbol of God’s true people, the harlot is a symbol of God’s unfaithful people. [Show More]

6. She longed for the Messiah promised in Genesis 3.

The woman’s description in Revelation 12:1-5 contains several allusions to God’s promise of a redeemer after Adam’s sin (Gen 3:14-16):

1) Both mention a woman bearing a child in the agony of giving birth. Eve’s punishment was essentially the pain of delivering children (Gen 3:16). [Show More]

2) The dragon of 12:3 is explained as “the serpent of old” (Rev 12:9), which refers to the serpent in the Garden of Eden (Gen 3:14).

3) “The dragon (the serpent) stood before the woman” (Rev 12:4), reminding us that God said that there would be “enmity” between the woman and the serpent.

4) Both passages refer to Jesus Christ; In Genesis 3:15, He is the seed promised to Eve. In Revelation 12:5, He is the “male child.”

In other words, Revelation 12 converts the woman of Genesis 3 into a symbol of all people before the time of Christ who have been eagerly waiting for the savior promised in Genesis 3:15. This would also include all such people who lived before Israel existed and all such people outside Israel after it came into existence. But it would not include unbelieving Israelites.

Conclusions

She is not Mary.

Based on the above analysis, the woman is not Mary because:

      • She is not a literal woman but a symbol,
      • She is the bride, the wife of the Lamb, and
      • She symbolizes all who longed for the Messiah promised in Genesis 3.

She is not the Church.

The woman is also not the formal Christian Church because:

      • She existed before the Church,
      • She is beautiful, while the church of the Middle Ages killed countless numbers of God’s people, and
      • She symbolizes all who, before Christ was born, longed for the Messiah promised in Genesis 3.

She is not Israel.

The woman is also not literal Israel because:

      • Her other children are Christians,
      • She is beautiful, while Israel killed the Son of God, and
      • She symbolizes all who longed for the Messiah promised in Genesis 3, inside, outside, and before Israel, but excluding unbelieving Israelites.

Revelation merges the Church into Israel.

Another important argument against the notion that the woman of Revelation 12 symbolizes literal Israel is that the Book of Revelation does not distinguish between Israel and the church but merges the church into Israel. (Read Article[Show More]

Revelation, therefore, is consistent with Paul’s analogy of the olive tree, from which some natural Jewish branches were cut off, and some wild Gentile branches were grafted (Rom 11:16-24). Consequently, the many references to Jewish things in the Book of Revelation, such as the 144,000 from the tribes of Israel, must be understood as referring to Christians.

She symbolizes God’s true people from all ages.

As discussed above:

      • She existed both before and after Christ,
      • Her other children are Christians,
      • She is not a literal woman but a symbol,
      • She is beautiful,
      • She is the bride, the wife of the Lamb, and
      • She symbolizes all who longed for the Messiah promised in Genesis 3.

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