This website opposes the orthodox doctrine of God because it teaches that the Son of God is not a distinct Person and, therefore, did not die on the Cross. That may sound strange, but it is the hidden reality of this Doctrine. The discussion below shows the following:
This Doctrine teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are a single immortal, invisible, and immutable (cannot suffer) Being with a single mind and will.
Therefore, since the term ‘Person’ implies a distinct mind, describing the Son of God as a ‘Person’ is misleading. The Father, Son, and Spirit are more appropriately described as modes of existing as God.
Since the Father and Son are a single immutable and immortal God with a single mind, the Son cannot become separated from the Father to become incarnate. Since God is immutable, the Son cannot suffer. Since God is immortal, the Son cannot die.
Therefore, what happened at the Incarnation was that the Holy Spirit inspired a mere man with God’s Word. That man, Jesus, has a human mind. Many of the things he said came from that human mind. That mere man suffered, died, was resurrected, ascended to heaven, and now sits at God’s right hand.
This Doctrine of God is not explained to people but is hidden behind a cloud of cliches. People are kept away from it by warnings that it is impossible to understand because we cannot understand God and by threats of excommunication. But the reality is that it contradicts the Bible, which presents the Father and Son as distinct Minds and says that the Son died for our sins.
Doctrine of God
The phrase “three Persons” is misleading.
The orthodox Trinity doctrine is often explained to people by saying that the Father, Son, and Spirit are one God existing as three Persons.Show More
For example:
GotQuestions defines “the doctrine of the Trinity” as that “there is one and only one true and living God” who “exists in three Persons—God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.”
“The Christian concept of the Trinity is often described as being one God existing in three distinct hypostases/personae/persons.” [González, Justo L. (1987). A History of Christian Thought: From the Beginnings to the Council of Chalcedon p. 307.]
The phrase “three Persons” implies three distinct minds. However, in the Trinity doctrine, the Father, Son, and Spirit share a single mind and, therefore, a single will, consciousness, and self-awareness. They do not each have a distinct mind. For example:
Karl Rahner, a leading Catholic scholar, in ‘The Trinity,’ wrote that the term “persons” implies distinct minds, but there exists in God only one power, one will, one mind, one self-presence, one consciousness, and only one self-awareness. These qualities do not distinguish the divine “persons” one from the other but come from the shared essence. Show More
“When today we speak of person in the plural, we think almost necessarily, because of the modern meaning of the word, of several spiritual centers of activity [minds], of several subjectivities [biases, views] and liberties [freedoms].”
“There are not three of these in God. … There are not three consciousnesses; rather the one consciousness subsists in a threefold way. There is only one real consciousness in God, which is shared by the Father, Son, and Spirit.” (Karl Rahner, in ‘The Trinity’)
“The element of consciousness … does not belong to it [the Person] in our context [the official doctrine of the {Catholic} Church].” (Rahner)
“There exists in God only one power, one will, only one self-presence. … Hence self-awareness is not a moment which distinguishes the divine “persons” one from the other.” (Rahner)
“Each Person shares the Divine will … that come from a mind. … Each Person’s self-awareness and consciousness is not inherent to that Person (by nature of that Person being that Person) but comes from the shared essence.” (Rahner)
“We must, of course, say that Father, Son, and Spirit possess self-consciousness and that each one is aware of the other two ‘persons’. But precisely this self-consciousness … comes from the divine essence, is common as one to the divine persons.” (Rahner).
Lewis Ayres stated similarly that the Persons do not “possess different natures, wills, or activities.”Show More
“We can now try to summarize how pro-Nicenes conceive of a divine person in the abstract. … We cannot … assume that they possess different natures, wills, or activities within the one Godhead.” (Ayres, p. 295) [Lewis Ayres, Nicaea and its legacy, An Approach to Fourth-Century Trinitarian Theology, 2004]
Consequently, leading Trinitarian scholars confirm that it is misleading to describe the Father, Son, and Spirit as “Persons.” Show More
“The champions of the Nicene faith … developed a doctrine of God as a Trinity, as one substance or ousia who existed as three hypostases, three distinct realities or entities (I refrain from using the misleading word’ Person’), three ways of being or modes of existing as God.” (Hanson Lecture)
“By the conventions of the late fourth century, first formulated in Greek by the ‘Cappadocian Fathers’, these three constituent members of what God is came to be referred to as hypostases (‘concrete individuals’) or, more misleadingly for us moderns, as prosōpa (‘persons’).” (Anatolios, xiii) [Khaled Anatolios, Retrieving Nicaea, 2011]
The phrase “three hypostases” is also inappropriate.
The orthodox Trinity doctrine is sometimes explained, using Greek terms from the fourth century, as one ousia (substance) and three hypostases. But the term hypostasis is also not appropriate because, while the Father, Son, and Spirit in the Trinity doctrine are a single Being with one mind, the Greek term hypostasis means something that exists distinctly from other things. Show More
Definitions of Hypostases
An “individual existence” (Hanson, p. 193);
“Distinct individuality” (Hanson, p. 53)
“Distinct reality” (Hanson, p. 190);
“Something that really exists, and exists in itself, as distinguished from an accident or a quality;” (Lienhard)
“Distinct personalities,” “distinct existences,” and “to be existent.” (Litfin)
“Concrete individuals” (Anatolios, xiii)
Therefore, in the fourth century, each hypostasis has a distinct mind. For example, the Eusebians (misleadingly called ‘Arians’) of the fourth century confessed “three in hypostasis but one in agreement.” (Ayres, p. 118) The phrase “one in agreement” means that the church fathers used hypostases for distinct minds. Show More
“Asterius [an important early ‘Arian’] … asserts that the triple name must refer to a triple reality. The Father and the Son are two natures, he writes, two hypostaseis, and two prosôpa. The two are one, he insists, in harmony of wills.’” (Lienhard)
People are unable to distinguish between the Father, Son, and Spirit.
In the Trinity doctrine, the distinction between the Father, Son, and Spirit is invisible to the created universe. The creation only sees one Being:
“By the last quarter of the fourth century, halting Christian attempts … had led … to what later generations generally think of as ‘the doctrine of the Holy Trinity’: the formulated idea that the God … is Father and Son and Holy Spirit, as one reality or substance, operating outward in creation always as a unity, yet always internally differentiated by the relationships of origin that Father and Son and Holy Spirit have with one another.” (Anatolios, xiii)
“The distinctions between them are real: but we do not know what it is to exist distinctly in this state.” (Ayres, p. 295)
“Three modes” is more descriptive.
So, if the terms ‘Persons’ and ‘hypostases’ are misleading and the distinction between them is invisible, how should the ‘Persons’ in the Trinity doctrine be described? Hanson refers to the Father, Son, and Spirit as “three ways of being or modes of existing as God:”
“The champions of the Nicene faith … developed a doctrine of God as a Trinity, as one substance or ousia who existed as three hypostases, three distinct realities or entities (I refrain from using the misleading word’ Person’), three ways of being or modes of existing as God.” (Hanson Lecture)
The challenge would be to show how this differs from Modalism (the name Von Harnack gave to second-century Monarchianism).
Three equal Minds would be Tritheism.
One might respond and say, yes, that may be the orthodox Trinity doctrine, but I believe in a Trinity of three Persons with three distinct minds. That would be consistent with the Bible, but if the three Persons are equal, there would be three Gods (Tritheism). As soon as one speaks of three Minds, two of the Minds must be subordinate to the other; otherwise, one has three Gods. But to admit that the Son and Spirit are subordinate to the Father would be ‘Arianism.’ To avoid both Tritheism and Arianism, the orthodox Trinity doctrine has to say that the Father, Son, and Spirit are a single Being with a single mind.
In the first four centuries, the Church believed that the Son is a distinct but subordinate divine Being.
The orthodox doctrine of God may be compared to the traditional doctrine of God of the first four centuries, today misleadingly called ‘Arianism.’ It is often claimed that the ‘Arians’ believed that Jesus is a created being. That might have been what Arius taught, but it was certainly not what most anti-Nicenes believed. They taught a trinity of three divine Beings. They regarded the Son as a distinct divine Person (hypostasis) with a distinct mind, subordinate to the Father. Show More
Arius himself taught three divine Beings:
“We have to resist the anachronistic characterization of him (Arius) as an antitrinitarian theologian.” “He writes simply, ‘So there are three hypostaseis,’” meaning “the set of beings that form the object (or objects) of Christian confession. … the three hypostaseis seemingly form a certain unity.” (Anatolios, p. 47-48)
‘Arians’ believed that each Person has a distinct mind:
The Eusebians (Arians) of the fourth century confessed “three in hypostasis but one in agreement.” (Ayres, p. 118) The phrase “one in agreement” means that the church fathers used hypostases for distinct minds.
Incarnation
The different views of the Incarnation are discussed in more detail here. In summary:
In the orthodox Trinity doctrine, a mere man died on the Cross.
In the orthodox Trinity doctrine, it is a mere man who died, was resurrected, ascended, and now sits at God’s right hand:
Since the Father and Son are a single Being with a single mind, the Son cannot be separated from the Father to become a human being. Rather, the Holy Spirit inspired a mere human being (Jesus) with the Word of God.
That human has a human mind. Some things Jesus said came from that human mind, for example, that he does not know the day or hour (Matt 24:36). At other times, it was God’s Word speaking through the Holy Spirit, for example, when He said that the Father and He are one.
Since the Father and Son are a single God and since God cannot suffer or die, the Son cannot suffer or die either. It was a mere man who suffered and died on the cross, was resurrected, ascended to heaven, and now sits at God’s right hand. One may object that that implies that we are not saved, for the death of a normal human being cannot save sinners. The Bible is clear that we are saved by the death of God’s Son (e.g., I Thess 5:9-10; 1 Peter 3:18).
In the first four centuries, the Church believed that the Creator was crucified.
In the doctrine of God that dominated during the first four centuries (today known as Arianism), to redeem the world, God produced a distinct divine Person (the Son) with a reduced divinity. That allowed the Son to become incarnated, suffer, and even die. In this view, Jesus does not have a human mind. Rather, the Logos (the Son) functions as Jesus’ mind. Consequently, Jesus Christ is the same Person as the pre-incarnate Son of God:
Everything Jesus said was said by God’s eternal Son.
The Logos (the eternal Son) experienced all of Jesus’ suffering, and He died. Consequently, the Creator and God of the earth was crucified, died, was resurrected, and ascended.
In this view, that was not the first time the Son appeared in human form. They taught that all personal appearances of Yahweh in the Old Testament are, in fact, the one we know as Jesus Christ:
“It is he who appeared in the Old Testament epiphanies. He took a body to appear under the New Testament as Saviour and Redeemer.” (RH, p. 103) [RH = Bishop R.P.C. Hanson, The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God – The Arian Controversy 318-381, 1987]
For the Eusebians, “the pre-existent Christ who appeared in the Old Testament on various occasions was the same as he who was crucified” (RH, 40, quoting Asterius, a leading early ‘Arian’)
Critical scholars believe that the Antichrist in Daniel is Antiochus IV. The purpose of this article is to show that that is not true.
It is generally agreed that the 11th horn of Daniel 7, the little horn of Daniel 8, and the “vile person” in Daniel 11 refer to the same Antichrist. (see here) Critical scholars are convinced that this is Antiochus IV; a Greek king that reigned in the middle of the second century B.C.
Since liberal scholars believe that some uninspired but partisan Jew wrote the Book of Daniel, they have a high tolerance for differences between Antiochus IV and the evil king in Daniel. The purpose of this article is to show that, for those who accept the reliability of the book, Antiochus does not fit the profile:
ANTIOCHUS DOES NOT FIT.
The Antichrist is Roman.
Previous articles have shown that the Antichrist grew out of the Roman Empire.
Daniel explicitly identifies the two beasts in Daniel 8 as Medo-Persia and Greece (Dan 8:20-21). By comparing the beasts of Daniel 7 and 8, another article shows that the two beasts in Daniel 8 are parallel to the second and third beasts in Daniel 7. Therefore, the 4th beast in Daniel 7 must be the Roman Empire. It follows that the Antichrist, symbolized as the 11th horn coming out of that 4th beast, comes out of the Roman Empire. Therefore, it cannot be a Greek king.
Antiochus did not rule by Deceit.
The Antichrist will “seize the kingdom by intrigue” (Dan 11:21). This Antiochus did not do. After the previous king (his brother) was killed, He became king with the help of the Pergamene monarch. The Antichrist will also “cause deceit to succeed” (Dan 8:25). Antiochus did not use deceit more than any other Greek king.
Daniel 11:21 describes how the predicted “vile person” (“despicable person” in the NASB) becomes king:
… a despicable person will arise,
on whom the honor of kingship has not been conferred,
but he will come in a time of tranquility
and seize the kingdom by intrigue.
“By intrigue” means plotting, conspiracy or trickery. Antiochus IV did not seize the kingdom by intrigue. Ancientmacedonia.com describes how he became king:
Seleucus was murdered by Heliodorus, his treasurer (B.C. 176) … On the death of Seleucus, the throne was seized by Heliodorus; but it was not long before Antiochus, the brother of the late king, with the help of the Pergamene monarch, Eumenes, recovered it.
The evil king in Daniel 11 becomes king through deceit and he rules through deceit: “cause deceit to succeed” (Dan 8:25). History does not identify Antiochus IV as any more deceitful than other Greek kings.
He did not distribute Plunder.
The predicted evil king “will distribute plunder, booty and possessions among them” (Dan 11:24). This was not true of Antiochus IV. On the contrary, he owed huge sums of war debt to Rome following his father’s defeats against the Romans and needed all the money he could lay his hands on.
He did not start small.
The Antichrist will begin small. This does not fit Antiochus. He was a Seleucid prince who became king after his oldest brother was killed.
The vile person of Daniel starts small (Dan 7:8; 8:9) and weak (Dan 11:23; supported by few), but later becomes “exceedingly great” (Dan 8:9). Antiochus IV did not start small. He was a Seleucid prince and the brother of the murdered king. After his brother’s murderer seized the throne, he was made king with the support of a neighboring king.
He was not greater than others.
The Antichrist will be greater than his predecessors, including Alexander the Great. Antiochus IV was weak compared to Alexander the Great, Seleucus I, and his father, Antiochus III.
The eleventh horn of Daniel 7 also symbolizes the Antichrist. This horn is much larger than the other 10 (Dan 7:20). In the liberal interpretation, this means that he is greater than the other kings of the Greek empire. In Daniel 8, the horn is even larger than Alexander the Great: Alexander is described as “very great” (Dan 8:8) but the horn is “exceedingly great” (KJV; RSV, Dan 8:9).
This does not fit Antiochus IV. He cannot be described as greater than Alexander the Great. Antiochus IV was not greater than the Seleucid kings that preceded him. Seleucus I Nicator was the first king of the Seleucid branch of the Greek Empire after Alexander’s empire split up. He had significant military successes. A few generations later, Antiochus III was called ‘the Great’ because he expanded the domain of the Seleucid kingdom to close to its original size. His military successes are described in Daniel 11:15 but later the Romans defeated him and left his empire, particularly in the west, subject to Rome’s growing power. Because of these defeats, Antiochus IV, as a boy, grew up a hostage in Rome.
Antiochus IV was weak compared to Alexander the Great, Seleucus I, and his father, Antiochus III. He had success against the Ptolemy branch of the Greek kingdom (Egypt), but by the time Critical scholars say Daniel was written (165 BC), the Romans had already ordered him to leave Egypt, and he had to oblige. On the eastern side of his kingdom, the Parthians were taking Iran from his empire, and the need to attend to this threat later allowed the Jewish revolt to succeed; the Maccabees were soon able to drive his soldiers out of Israel and reinstate temple services.
He did not expand his kingdom.
The Antichrist will expand his kingdom “toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land (Judea)” (Dan 8:9). Antiochus IV did not expand his kingdom to Judea. It was already part of his kingdom when he became king. And, by the time Daniel was written according to liberals, the Romans already ordered Antiochus to leave Egypt.
Alexander the Great
Daniel 8:8 uses the word “elahah” to describe the growth of the four Greek horns. This means vertical growth. This word is appropriate because the four Greek horns did not expand the Greek territory. They simply subdivided the area already occupied by Alexander the Great amongst themselves. In symbolic language, the horns ‘grew up’ in an area that was already occupied.
In contrast, Daniel 8:9 uses the word “yatsah” to describe the growth of the little horn (Dan 8:9). This means horizontal growth and implies that the horn expands the area it occupies. The horizontal expansion of the predicted evil king is more specifically described as “toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land (Judea)” (Dan 8:9). Antiochus IV did not expand his kingdom into those three directions.
He did have some success in the south (Egypt), but in 165 BC, when Daniel was supposedly written, the Romans already ordered him to leave Egypt.
He also did not invade Judea. Judea was part of the kingdom when he became king.
In the east he invaded nothing. At best he strengthened his control over the areas which his father already occupied.
And if the south can be mentioned, then also the West, because he also invaded Cyprus.
He did not oppose God.
The Antichrist will be “set against the holy covenant” (Dan 11:28, 30) and “speak monstrous things against the God of gods” (Dan 11:36). Antiochus IV was not principally opposed to the God of the Bible. What he did for Judea, he did for all nations within his empire.
Antiochus IV’s objective was merely to maintain control over his empire. He ordered all peoples of his empire to abandon their particular customs; not only the Jews:
“Then the king wrote to his whole kingdom that all should be one people, each abandoning his particular customs. All the Gentiles conformed to the command of the king, and many Israelites were in favor of his religion; they sacrificed to idols and profaned the Sabbath.” (1M1:41-43).
Antiochus IV did rob only the Jewish temple. He also robbed other temples (2 Macc 9:2) to pay his debt to the Romans.
He appointed the high priest in Jerusalem because he appointed rulers for all nations in his empire and because Judea was a temple kingdom, effectively making the high priest the king of Judea.
After nearly 200 years of Hellenistic dominance over Israel, the influence of the Hellenistic culture was strong, even without Antiochus IV forcing it down the throats of his subjects (1 Macc 1:11-14). The Maccabean War began in 167 BC as a Jewish rebellion against the pro-Hellenistic Jews ruling Judea. When the rebels attacked Jerusalem and forced the high priest to hide in the citadel, Antiochus IV saw this as a revolt against his authority (2M 5:11). For that reason, he attacked Jerusalem (II Macc 5:5-16). He did not attack Jerusalem because it worshipped God.
He did not serve a strange god.
The Antichrist will magnify himself above every god, not show any regard for the gods of his fathers, and honor a god of fortresses. But Antiochus’ purpose was that all people should serve the gods of his fathers.
“The king … will exalt and magnify himself above every god and … He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers … nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all” (Dan 11:36-37). “But instead he will honor a god of fortresses, a god whom his fathers did not know” (Dan 11:38).
This Antiochus did not do. His aim was rather the opposite, namely that all people should serve the gods of his fathers. It was a statue of Zeus that he set up in the temple in Jerusalem.
He did not kill the Prince.
The Antichrist will kill “the prince of the covenant.” Critical scholars identify this prince as the high priest Onias, but Antiochus had no direct involvement in Onias’ death. This site identifies this prince as Jesus and Antiochus also did not kill Jesus. Jesus died 200 years later.
The Antichrist “shattered … the prince of the covenant” (Dan 11:22).
Critics claim that “the prince of the covenant” refers to the high priest Onias and that Antiochus killed him. As already stated, the high priest was effectively the king of Israel, and in the same way that Antiochus IV appointed kings for other nations, he appointed the high priest in Israel. Antiochus replaced Onias III as high priest with Onias’s brother Jason and a few years later he also replaced Jason with Menelaus. Menelaus resented Onias’ criticism and had him killed in 171 BC. It would therefore not be valid to claim that Antiochus broke or shattered Onias. It was the Jewish high priest who arranged his death.
Based on word links, another article shows that “the prince of the covenant” (Dan 11:22) is the same as the “prince” who “confirms the covenant with many for one week” (Dan 9:27), namely, Jesus Christ. (see here) Antiochus also did not kill Jesus either. Antiochus died 180 years before Jesus.
That “prince of the covenant” refers to Jesus may be confirmed as follows:
The “prince of the covenant” in Daniel 11 is arguably the same as the “prince of the host” in Daniel 8:11 because both are leaders of God’s people. Critics propose that this “prince of the covenant” in Daniel 11 is the high priest Onias III. Indeed, the Bible sometimes refers to the high priest as a prince, but never as the “prince of the host.” The only other reference in the Bible to the “prince of the host” is in Joshua 5:14-15, where He is worshiped:
14 He said, “No; rather I indeed come now as captain of the host of the LORD.” And Joshua fell on his face to the earth … 15 The captain of the LORD’S host said to Joshua, “Remove your sandals from your feet, for the place where you are standing is holy.” … (The word translated as “captain” in Joshua is the same word translated as “prince” in Daniel 8:11, namely ‘sar’.)
This implies that “the prince of the host” is Jesus Christ, which implies that the “prince of the covenant” also refers to Jesus.
PROPHETIC PERIODS
Overview of the Periods in Daniel
Daniel mentions several periods, namely the “time and times and the dividing of time” (Dan 7:25), 2300 “evening morning” (Daniel 8:14), “seventy weeks” (Dan 9:24), 1290 days (Dan 12:11), and 1335 days (Dan 12).
In the liberal interpretation (Critical scholars), all the periods in Daniel describe the Antichrist:
Daniel 2 does not mention the Antichrist. Therefore, there is no prophetic period in that chapter.
The first period in Daniel is the “time and times and the dividing of time” (3½ times) during which the Antichrist persecutes the saints (Dan 7:25).
While the first period relates to persecution, the second, in Daniel 8:14, relates to the temple. It announces that the sanctuary will be cleansed after 2300 “evening morning.” The KJV translates this as 2300 “days,” equal to more than 6 years. Therefore, it does not fit the time of Antiochus IV. To get closer to the period of Antiochus’ defilement of the temple, Critics interpret this as 2300 ‘evening morning’ sacrifices, of which there was one each morning and one each evening, giving 1150 full days.
The third period is the “seventy weeks” of Daniel 9:24, subdivided into 7 weeks, 62 weeks, and the final 1 week. (As interpreted by this website, this period does not relate to the Antichrist. See – here.)
To explain and link the other periods, Daniel 12 provides two further periods, namely 1290 days and 1335 days.
Antiochus did not fit these periods.
In the liberal interpretation, all the periods in Daniel describe the Antichrist. However, Antiochus does not fit these periods.
Antiochus IV does not fit these periods but liberals argue that Daniel was written before the end of these periods, and the writer was simply wrong with his predictions. Critics, therefore, do not require the periods to fit history exactly. But at least two of the periods preceded the pollution of the temple by Antiochus IV, and should fit history exactly:
The first is the 483 years in Daniel 9. This prophecy requires 483 years from the “decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince” (Dan 9:25). In the view of the liberals, the last week describes the time of Antiochus IV, which means that the preceding 483 years were past when their unidentified second-century author wrote. The 483 years must, therefore, correspond to actual history, but to fit 483 years between the possible decrees and Antiochus IV is not possible. 483 years before Antiochus brings us to about 50 years before Jerusalem was destroyed. There was no decree to rebuild Jerusalem at the time. Critics have several creative solutions, but the article on the Liberal-critical interpretation of Daniel 9 shows clear flaws in such proposals.
The other period that was past when the critics’ second-century author wrote, is the first 30 days of the 1290 days in Revelation 12:11. The 1290 days began with the desecration of the temple. 30 days later, the persecution of the saints begins and lasts for 1260 days. (See below for an explanation.) In the view of the Critics, the second-century author completed the book of Daniel while the sanctuary was still defiled and the saints were still being persecuted. These 30 days must, therefore, fit the history of Antiochus IV exactly, but do not. It was rather the other way around. According to I and II Maccabees, the persecution of the Jews began before the temple was desecrated.
1290 Days = 30 + 1260
This section explains the statement above that, according to Daniel, the temple would be desecrated 30 days before the persecution began.
Daniel 7:25 predicts persecution of 3½ times, which is equal to 1260 days (cf. Rev 12:6, 14).
After Daniel was reminded of the 3½ years of persecution (Dan 12:7), he asked for more information (Dan 12:8) and was told:
“And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,
and the abomination that maketh desolate set up,
there shall be a 1290 days.” (KJV; Dan 12:11)
Note that this means that the 1290 days explain the 3½ years. Furthermore, since Daniel 12:11 only specifies a beginning event, it is assumed that the 1290 days and the 1260 days years of persecution have the same endpoint. Therefore, the events are as follows:
Day 0 – The “daily” is taken away and the “abomination of desolation” set up (Dan 12:11). This is the desecration of the sanctuary.
Day 30 – persecution and 1260 days start,
Day 1290 – temple cleansed and persecution stops.
In other words, the sanctuary would be desecrated 30 days before the beginning of the persecution of the saints.
Liberals cannot explain the periods.
Critics have no acceptable explanation for the differences between the periods; the 2300 “evening morning,” the 3½ times, and the 1260, 1290, and 1335 days.
In the interpretation proposed by the critics, the periods in Daniel conflict with one another. For example:
Critics assume the 2300 “evening morning” are equal to 1150 real days and this is the period of the sanctuary’s defilement. But then the 1150 days and the 1290 days (Dan 12:11) begin at the same time, which means that the 1150 days of temple defilement end 140 days before the end of the 1290 days, which is also the end of the 1260 days of persecution. In other words, the saints are persecuted for 140 days after the sanctuary has been cleansed, which is not logical.
Jesus placed the 1290 days in His future.
Jesus referred to “the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel” as something in His future (compare Matt 24:15 to Dan 12:11). It, therefore, cannot refer to something that Antiochus IV did.
The 1290 days begin with “the abomination that maketh desolate set up”. Critics interpret this as the setting up of a statue of Zeus in the Jewish temple by Antiochus IV, but Jesus said:
Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand). (Matt 24:15)
The liberal interpretation not only destroys the book of Daniel. It discredits Jesus Christ and the entire Bible. Revelation, in particular, is built on the foundation of Daniel’s prophecies, for example:
The beasts (Dan: 7:4-8; Rev 13:2),
The “time, times, and half a time” (Dan 7:25; Rev 12:14), and
The oath (Dan 12:7; Rev 10:6).
If Daniel falls, Revelation falls as well.
CONCLUSION
The Liberals’ writer made factual errors.
.Liberals argue that the differences between the Antichrist of Daniel and Antiochus are due to the writer’s lack of objectivity but not all differences can be blamed on a lack of objectivity.
Critics may argue that Daniel describes Antiochus as more evil and powerful than he was because their second-century Jewish author was emotionally wrapped up in the destruction of everything sacred to the Jews, with a consequential loss of objectivity. For this reason, they may argue, that he described Antiochus as ruling by deceit, being more powerful than all other Greek kings, and principally opposing God. However, if the “vile person” is supposed to be a description of Antiochus, then Daniel includes factually incorrect information that cannot be ascribed to a lack of objectivity, such as:
He started small.
He appeared on the scene 483 years after a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.
He promoted a “strange god”, unknown to his fathers.
Antiochus was a type of the Antichrist.
As discussed in the article on Daniel 11, Daniel 11:2-19 correlates well with known secular history until the death of Antiochus III in verse 19. Furthermore, there are also many similarities between Antiochus IV and the predicted evil king. But Antiochus IV by no means exhausts the passage. He was only a type of the later and much greater Antichrist.