In the Trinity theory God is three Persons in one Being, but Jesus is not God.

This article has been completely rewritten.  For the new article see:

Given how the New Testament uses the title “God,” Jesus is not God.

The following is a summary of the revised article:

In the Trinity theory, God is one Being but three co-equal and co-eternal Persons; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. 

The New Testament, however, as this article purposes to show, maintains a DISTINCTION between God and Jesus.  In summary:

The Bible is very clear that THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.  A number of verses in the New Testament contain the phrases “God is one,” “one God,“only God,” or “only true God,” and in all instances the Father alone is God.  These verses often identify Jesus Christ as “Lord.” For example, “There is but ONE GOD, THE FATHER … and ONE LORD, JESUS CHRIST.

All letters of the New Testament commence with making a distinction between God and Jesus, for example, “Peace from GOD our Father, and the LORD Jesus Christ.”  Therefore, if we derive our definition of the term “God” from the New Testament, then we must use that title for the Father only.

Jesus referred to the Father as “My God.” He did this even 60 years after His resurrection when He gave the Book of Revelation.  Paul similarly described the Father as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ.”  The letter to the Hebrews, speaking to Jesus, similarly talks of God as “Your God.”  And since God is also His God, Jesus prayed to God when He was on earth.

In a number of New Testament verses, God, the Father, is the Ultimate uncaused Cause of all things, in distinction to Jesus.  For example, “There is but one God, the Father, FROM WHOM ARE ALL THINGS … and one Lord, Jesus Christ, BY whom are all things” (1 Cor. 8:6). 

Jesus “is the IMAGE of the invisible God.”  God is invisible, unknowable, and incomprehensible.  God, the Father, “dwells in unapproachable light, whom NO MAN HAS SEEN or can see.” If God is invisible, while Jesus is His visible image, then Jesus is distinct from God.  Jesus is therefore not God, given how the New Testament uses the title “God.”

At His ascension, Jesus “was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of GOD” (Mark 16:19). His position, at God’s right hand, is mentioned often in the New Testament.  It is the position of power over the entire universe; subject only to God.  It confirms that Jesus is both DISTINCT from God and SUBORDINATE to God.

Many, many other passages may be listed where God and Jesus are mentioned as distinct from one another.  For example, before He had to suffer and die on the Cross, Jesus pleaded with His Father, “if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me.”  The book of Revelation refers “to God and to the Lamb,” and the Father “alone possesses immortality.”

The amended article (Given how the New Testament uses the title “God,” Jesus is not God) continues to discuss:

    • The controversy about Christ in the fourth century;
    • That Jesus is God, depending on how we define the modern word “God.”
    • Various analyses of Bible books to confirm the conclusion in this article;
    • A short discussion of some possible objections, namely:
      • Jesus is sometimes called “God.”
      • John 1:1; The Word was God.
      • John 1:18: Only Begotten God.
      • Jesus said, “I and the Father are one

 

 

 

 

21 Replies to “In the Trinity theory God is three Persons in one Being, but Jesus is not God.”

  1. Brethren, let us not confuse ourselves with the Trinity of God. The Bible is very clear on God`s plan of redemption. Note God is Spirit who can possess any form, any character. His appearances to humans depend on His purpose. At times He appeared as a fire…..Story of the burning bush, As spirit…Day of Pentecost, or as a friend and Human {Jesus Christ). So when Jesus prayed to the Father, this does not mean he was not God. But it was a demonstration to humanity that only one in Heaven is worthy to receive worship.

    1 Timothy 3 v 11 – 16…God appeared to his earth as a human. Seen by angels.
    Therefore, his purpose was to save his people from sin. After His resurrection, Thomas began to know him completely that he is the true God.
    ……For all the time along, he took him as Lord and not God….but when he touched Jesus’ hands, he fell down and cried…My Lord and My God. If Jesus was not true God he could have rebuked this word…My God

    Again remember the devil said, worship me and if you do all this kingdom of the world will be given to you…Jesus said…Get away from me Satan: Worship the Lord your God and immediately Satan knew that he was speaking to God himself in Flesh.

    Therefore Jesus is God and God is Jesus. Meaning the body of Jesus represents God’s love for humankind and the Spirit of God in Jesus represents his love for heavenly beings. Jesus took all forms of God. This God who speaks as a word during creation, appeared as blazing fire is now fully live as a human but his Spirit is everywhere present

    Thank you

    1. Dear Pardon

      I appreciate your views, but if we want to represent God on this earth, we must seek the truth even if that goes against what the mighty men of this world preach. We must seek the truth from the Bible alone and we must be extremely accurate about what we read in the Bible.

      With respect to 1 Tim. 3:16, there is nothing in that verse to indicate that it speaks about God. It is all about Jesus. A few verses earlier, we read, “there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Tim. 2:5). In my view, you are guilty of misrepresenting the truth by knowingly or unknowingly quoting selectively.

      With respect to what Thomas said, remember that the Greek Bible has no word equivalent to the modern word “God.” The only word they had was equivalent to our word “god.” That word is used in the Bible for the true God and for many other beings; even for Satan. When the translator thinks that the true God is intended, it is translated as “God.” Otherwise, it is translated as “god.” In the very same chapter in which Thomas said, “my lord and my god” (John 20:28), Jesus also said that He is going to our God and His God (John 20:17). My brother in Christ, why do you omit to quote that verse?

      Let us be extremely careful to make a deep study of these things. We only have a short while on this earth. Then we will be held accountable for the things we said.

  2. John 10:38 (NIV)
    John 14:11 (NIV)
    John 14:10 (NIV)
    This all proves that jesus is the father himself….

    1. In John 14:11, Jesus said, “I am in the Father and the Father is in Me.” In John 10:38, He also said, “the Father is in Me, and I in the Father.” But Jesus prayed for His disciples “that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You” (John. 17:21). And, “that they may be one, just as We are one; I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity” (17:22-23).

      How can Jesus be the Father Himself? Did He pray to Himself? Did He ask Himself, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will” (Matt. 26:29)?

    1. Hi William
      I like short comments! Hebrews 1:8 refers to Jesus as theos (god), but the next verse refers to the Father as His god (theos). This is similar to John 20, where Thomans refers to Jesus as god (theos), but Jesus refers to the Father as His god (theos).

      The word God, which is the modern name for the One who exists by Himself, does not exist in the Hebrew or Greek Bibles. They only had the word theos in Greek, which is the word for the Greek gods. To refer to the Father and the Son as theos only means that they are supernatural beings, such as the Greek god Zeus. When to translate theos as God or as god is pure interpretation. For further discussion, see Ignatius of Antioch or THEOS

  3. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    John 1:1 NKJV
    We can verify that THE WORD MEANS JESUS in John 1:14
    And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

  4. Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.
    Acts 20:28 NKJV
    For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
    Isaiah 9:6 NKJV
    Titus 2:12b-14 NKJV

    1. Hi Werner

      I assume you are saying that Jesus is God.

      You must remember that the word “God” does not appear in the New Testament; at least not in the original Greek. All that we find in the Greek is the word theos, and that word is equivalent to our word “god.” When the translator thinks that “the Majesty on high” (Heb. 1:3) is intended, he translates theos with “God.” Otherwise, he translates theos with “god,” for instance, “the god of this world” (2 Cor. 4:4).

      Since translators are Trinitarians, by and large, they believe that Jesus is God. Therefore, they translate the instances, where Jesus is identified as theos, as “God.” Then, when the man in the pew reads the Bible, he concludes that Jesus is “God.” It is like composite circular reasoning: One part of the church translates theos as “God” because they think Jesus is God; another part of the church thinks Jesus is God because the translation reads “God.”

      What would you have thought if Isaiah 9:6 read “mighty god,” and Titus 2:13 read “our great god and savior, Christ Jesus?” Don’t judge by appearances.

  5. I do understand what has been said. As we speak about Trinity we mean three in one. How does Jesus perform all the miracles whereas He is not God?

    1. Jesus did these miracles through the power of the Holy Spirit. His disciples can do the same work. He said, “I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father” (John 14:12).

    2. God gives Jesus the power to do anything that will help accomplish God’s plan to have a peaceful and better earth. rev 21:4.

  6. Andries,

    I know who God is, God knows who He is, It seems many of your readers know who He is. You are the one trying to tell God who He is and is Not. This seems like something you should take up with Him and not assert to try to teach others.

    If you read with a good, older concordance, you will see very clearly who He is. This only comes by faith and being taught of Him.

    But to further muddy your understanding, I will also warn you that if you had read the Bible, with original language and the Spirit, you would have read that Jesus also admits that He is the Holy Spirit. Many times.

    Repent, dear deceived soul. Repent while there is still time. Lean not on your own understanding and being wise in your own eyes.

    The true danger in this understanding, is if you are wrong about the foundation, then this whole blog is built on a faulty foundation. I assume you will be too busy defending your own wisdom and beloved understanding and ideas. No need to reply. It’s irrelevant to me. But that each one will come to KNOW God and be known by Him, in truth. That will determine if the door is open to that soul.

    Who is the door opener? who is the Lord that will declare depart from me? But only God can judge and condemn. You have many discrepancies that you have not reconciled. I pray you will be able to even admit that you need to.

    Maranatha!

    1. Dear Tara,
      I read the Bible different from you. There are many statements which indirectly imply who God is, but, much more important, there are a few places that directly define God:

      Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him” (1 Cor. 8:6).

      There is … one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.” (E[ph. 4:4).

      There is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Tim. 1:5).

      I assume that you believe what you believe because that is what people taught you. I would recommend that you study the Bible to arrive at your Christology. For example, search for the phrase “true God,” or take an entire book, like Revelation, and read it with the goal of understanding only this one thing; what does it say about Jesus?

      Andries

  7. you are anti christ!.in revelation tells that whoever considered JeSUS Christ is Not God they are the anti Christ.

    1. No, John wrote that he that denies that Jesus came in the flesh is the Antichrist (2 John 1:7). “Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son” (1 John 2:22)

  8. Andries if you deny that Jesus is God, you are a false prophet. Only a sinless God could die for my sins and save me. Jesus was and is God and man simultaneously. John the Baptist says in John 1:29 “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” Only a sinless God can take away man’s sin. Therefore Andries, repent ‬‬from this false teaching.

    1. Neels

      Firstly, you say “only a sinless God could die for my sins and save me.” I know that this is standard rhetoric, but where do you find it in the Bible? This seems to accept the general teaching that Jesus died to pacify an angry God. That is, in my view, not consistent with the Bible. It is the dominant view of God in Christianity, but still a heathen view of God. In the Bible, God saves us through Jesus, but it is God that saves. Perhaps my article WHY JESUS HAD TO DIE, will help.

      Secondly, the New Testament uses the title God almost always exclusively for the One Whom Jesus called Father. Therefore, do not be too quick to call me a false prophet. It is interesting, in Church History, how easily people excommunicated other Christians with a different understanding of the Bible. We need a more nuanced view of Jesus. He is the First and the Last, but distinct from God. He has all power in heaven and on earth, but received it from God. He created all things, but it was God who created all things through Him. I do not think it is wrong to refer to Jesus as God, for He is extremely similar and close to God, but Jesus is clearly not the Invisible Source of all things.

        1. Hi Lou
          In the NASB 1 John 5:7-8 reads “For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood.” You are probably using the KJV. Textual critics agree that the KJV contains a corrupted reading in this verse.

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